In my 4/17/09 Commentary #37 on the LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter) and what we might expect from it evidence wise, I did not mention the companion LCROSS (Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite) part of the mission. I did not do so because I suspected that the drama of what the LCROSS potential may represent to Earth humanity might over shadow the points made there in that previous report. However, LCROSS and LRO are in orbit around the Moon, so now we come to it.
If you’ve read Commentary #37, then you know that the LRO is to position itself in very low orbit only about 50 km or a little over 31 miles above the Moon’s surface and is suppose to be taking the best high resolution images of that surface ever and for the duration of one year. Compare that to the 230-250 mile distance the MGS MOC mission was relegated to above Mars taking its images. If there is any civilization evidence on the Moon, and the evidence from the Clementine Moon imaging clearly suggests that there is with some being on a massive scale, then this new LRO imaging will theoretically reveal it in bold and fine detail.
That is, if intentional obfuscation isn’t a factor. However, I seriously doubt that they are going to voluntarily reveal what the Clementine imaging and other earlier imaging clearly indicates is there on the Moon. I could of course be wrong about this but I suspect that what we here in the public as well as the academic and science communities are going to get is some very good artificial graphics work made especially for this mission here on Earth long before the mission ever lifted off Earth on its way to the Moon and nothing about it will be in any way real even as its looks very good.
Meanwhile, here’s the other part of the story on this same mission. Did you know that this same space craft also contains what NASA refers to as LCROSS. More specifically this part of the mission consists of two “heavy impactors” that will on 10/9/2009 “excavate the permanently dark floor of one of the Moon’s polar craters” in the South Polar Region. The purpose will be to throw ejecta debris in a plume above any targeted crater so that instruments can visually analyze it for any water ice content. The purpose being to determine if any water is present in these deep permanently in shadow dark crater bottoms that can be used for future human bases on the Moon.
There are three crater areas potentially targeted as follows:
(1) Mendeleev region at ……….. Latitude 05.7º North — Longitude 140.9º East
(2) Goddard C complex at …….. Latitude 15.6º North — Longitude ..84.3º East
(3) Giordano Bruno at …………… Latitude 35.9º North — Longitude 102.8º East
In other words, although the terms used give the LCROSS portion of the mission an engineering feel perception wise, what we are really talking about is sending two heavy bombs down to the Moon’s surface but putting spin on them as just heavy impactors or excavators. If the LRO images that are made available for public scrutiny are completely fake and sanitized as I suspect may happen, then we are likely talking about a complete blackout as to any truth information about what is really happening on the Moon and how what is going on there may potentially effect Earth.
Let’s face it, hidden people in control that don’t want populations to know anything at all about what is going on likely have something very serious to hide, something that likely would not be approved of by populations if known. That’s the problem with control types who must operate in a semi-democratic environment where the people who pay the way may potentially want to get involved and start interfering with hidden agendas. This should be of concern not only to USA citizens and tax payers but also others around the world as we could all be impacted by any potential negatives generated by the LCROSS operation.Consider the following speculation.
Remember that there is likely civilization evidence elsewhere on the Moon according to evidence from the Clementine Moon imaging as I’ve reported on in the past. Further, we don’t yet know enough about what is down inside these huge very deep craters permanently in shadow. So what in the hell are we doing blindly sending large bombs down inside one or more of these craters!
Consider this. What if there is water down there? We know that water is the basis of life as we know it. Then logically it is possible that there may be life of some kind down in some of the craters unique to this unique environment taking advantage of it. If so, what right do we have to blindly do violence to any such life based on merely an assumption of no life on our part and just because it is expedient for us? Seems a terrible gamble and dumb as a post to me.
Worse, what if there is intelligent and/or advanced life down there? It just can’t be you say. All I can say is, if you don’t know even whether there is water down there or not, how in the hell can you know whether life is down there taking advantage of it or not? If someone advanced is down there, could such violence or at least the attempt of it be interpreted as anything but an act of war with deadly consequences. You know how you would interpret it and there is little reason to believe that anyone else would interpret it any differently. Blindly sending violence, uh excuse me impactor excavators, down into one or more of these dark craters of mystery without knowing what is there would clearly demonstrate that Earth has a bunch of ignorant idiots deserving what they get.
In another speculative scenario, even if our secrecy types were secretly in contact with someone on the Moon and they said it is okay for us to send these bombs into one or more of these polar craters, in my opinion only a bunch of rank dummies would act so blindly on verbal assurances only. What if there is someone out of sight not wanting to be seen down in these craters more than capable of defending themselves even from someone else on the Moon and that someone else has a hidden agenda in such assurances? That someone else might like nothing better than to see a lop sided war start between incautious Earth and any deep crater residents.
I don’t know whether you have ever thought about it before but Earth, as beautiful as this world is to us, is not all that stable a planet geologically speaking and very vulnerable to the right kind of planetary attack targeting its particular vulnerabilities. It is a 70% water world with super volcano’s and the ring of fire at crustal plate joints. Accurately directed weaponized harmonics, asteroids, or other weapons could result in world wide devastation plunging us all in the abyss. Not good.
Unfortunately, I am reminded of that asteroid some time ago that was to come close to Mars and possibly impact it that I did a 1/6/2008 Commentary #024 on. Many scientists and people in the public were looking forward to and even hoping the asteroid would hit Mars. Never mind that the evidence here at this website strongly suggests life on the planet. It apparently did not hit Mars but now what if you were from Mars or someone else out there observing this kind of myopic, thoughtless, insufficiently caring behavior here on Earth. What would you think of Earth people and our right to exist?
It would seem to me that, whether we have permission from someone on the Moon or not, more cautious alternatives as to exploring the interior of these deep dark polar craters should be the only thing considered whether more difficult to implement or not. Further, bombs should not just be taken off the table permanently, they should also be removed from Moon orbit permanently. A lack of caution and blindly choosing expediency too often results in bad things happening. So what do you think?
I’ve received a delayed response for my contact with Senator Bill Nelson as appears below over the LCROSS issue and not blinding bombing a Moon crater interior with no real knowledge of what is there. This “public servant” chairs the Senate “Subcommittee Science and Space” charged with primary direct government oversight on all things NASA and JPL and therefore mission like LCROSS spending tax payer monies.
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This responsive is singularly without even a suggestion of compassion. Pathetic and shameful isn’t it. Sounds a great deal like a canned pitch brush off by an underling in a direction they well know to be a dead end doesn’t it. Does it sound to you like that he even read my correspondence at all? Not even a stall tactic like “I’ll look into it.”
In my opinion, this expected empty response is typical of what we out here in the public are faced with when dealing with politicians of this day and time. They are socially smooth and polished but, for the most part, they can be expected to become involved in national or international matters important to us not for reasons of the right or wrong of things but only for reasons benefiting themselves, their reelection, and/or those they see themselves’ as owing favors to. They know that not enough of the general public is ignorant of this issue and its ethical questions and therefore will not negatively impact them.
If we out here among the people want political leaders to be responsive and set a standard of acting responsibly, it must start with we out here in the public banding together. We have to show them via numbers pressure that there are consequences for poor irresponsible behavior and that it is accordingly in their best interest to at least go to the trouble of acting like they are concerned with the issues that we raise to their attention.